Phase inverter

[lesobrod]

This is fantastic discussion. (oo__OO)
Please,tracert , don't be insulted!
How about Reaper 4.1? The simple *(-1) works OK.
I sure that problem is in other part of OSM; or in compilation to VST; or in connection with DAW.
Well I'd got some problems with Reaper + SM-VST but all af them was in the special features
"SM as compiler VS Reaper as host".
So OSM and name of DAW please!!

[tracert]

sorry... tank you for your time.

[trogluddite]

That's no problem - it's what the forum is here for.

[dutchound]

But, you have tested your schematic on a d.a.w. ?
On my d.a.w. phase not changed...

if you invert a signal amplitude it will be flipped 180 phase if it is a waveform that looks radially symmetric over its middle point...

\/\
/\/

that is a phase and amplitude inversion

if you have this /|/|/| waveform and you want to invert its phase so it becomes \|\|\|\

then you have to have a special knob on the oscillator that sais phase...

think about it, its pretty simple but you need to do some pictures to know what the mathematics does to your waveform.

i thought your replies sound pretty ... confused abotu what you are talking about!

[Acrobat]

or not?

Well I hope this code works as first picture ( only if SM was not designed by aliens)))

MMmh no, it will definitely not work as a phase inverter if you feed it with the wrong source. i.e. if the incoming white stream is not already an oscillator output but, say, a frequency coming from M2P or other kind of messages like transposition, etc.
(That's why I was focusing on stream type in my earlier message, Trog)

ANYWAY, as always, looking at the whole OSM is resolutive....

[trogluddite]

(That's why I was focusing on stream type in my earlier message, Trog)

In a formal way, a data stream is any ordered pair (s,Δ) where:
1) s is a sequence of tuples and
2) Δ is a sequence of positive real time intervals.
As defined in data protocol standards (via Wikipedia reference!!)

Note there is no mention of what the data represents - it could just as easily be one data packet per day announcing how many times I have got all nerdy about technical terms!!

You are quite right to emphasise that the 'meaning' of the data is totally in the hands of the designer. From my time with analogue synths, I believe that this is an important distinction to make - a 'stream', 'triggered event', 'control voltage' etc. is just the medium via which data of some kind is transmitted.
That's precisely why I like to be precise - I think it encourages us to keep the 'meaning' of the data, and how it is 'moved' separate, so that we do not make rash assumptions about what a signal might be. (If you ever stuck a 1/4 jack into a socket expecting to hear audio, and deafened everyone with a SMPTE time code signal, you'll know just what I mean!!)
Float your mouse over the 'black circle' connector in the toolbox filter - it says 'Stream filter'. The 'gods' of SM have decreed that 'stream' is the technical term for all sample rate data. And they have given explicit names to all species within that genus.
As with the 'inverter' vs. '180deg phase' question, it can only lead to confusion if we use technical terms indiscriminately - we can learn (and teach) much more effectively we can agree on the language..