XY x 4 Pad Project

[aliasant]

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Here is something I have been working on for a couple of days.
I have done a lot but there are some things I just cant get to work.
I need help.

Heeeeelp....... ! !

Short description. Its an XY Pad with 4 different "blobs"
Each blob can move at different speeds. It has a built in "inertia" sort of and that can be adjusted via the knobs.

I left a better description inside the .osm and also wrote about the problems I have had.
It does work great but there are some things I havnt been able to implement yet such as selecting a blob by clicking on it instead of as now click on the knob for that blob to select it. Im halfway there but maybe I have tried to do it in a much more difficult way then necessary?

Download it and have a look.

XYx4pad 1.0.osm

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[infuzion]

[quote="aliasant"]I haven't been able to implement yet such as selecting a blob by clicking on it instead of as now click on the knob for that blob to select it.[/quote]Mouse Area attached to the dot's View?

[aliasant]

I haven't been able to implement yet such as selecting a blob by clicking on it instead of as now click on the knob for that blob to select it.[/quote]Mouse Area attached to the dot's View?

I have tried so many ways but there is something I keep missing here. Please Infuzion. Or anyone else. If you know how to please help me fix it?

[Andrew J]

Martin, take a look at the Parametric EQ module in the Effects toolbox. I noticed that instead of the Drag, they use an XY Drag Accumulate. However, what seems more important is that they use a separate mouse area for each control. Each mouse area is fed from the same view, but the area is set according to the current location of the blob. The way yours is set up is that the whole panel is the mouse area, so there's no way you can click on the non-active blobs.

[aliasant]

Martin, take a look at the Parametric EQ module in the Effects toolbox. I noticed that instead of the Drag, they use an XY Drag Accumulate. However, what seems more important is that they use a separate mouse area for each control. Each mouse area is fed from the same view, but the area is set according to the current location of the blob. The way yours is set up is that the whole panel is the mouse area, so there's no way you can click on the non-active blobs.

Not entirely true.
I can click on the non active blobs but it seems they need 2 clicks. First one that will not only click on that blob but also move the current active blob to that spot covering the other one.

Your most likely right though =)
If someone else wants to do it for me please please do since I still dont understand how to do it right :/

[Andrew J]

I can click on the non active blobs but it seems they need 2 clicks. First one that will not only click on that blob but also move the current active blob to that spot covering the other one.

Really? That doesn't work for me.

I'd actually like to help get this to work, because it's something I have a need for myself. I've got something which works in 1D, so I'll see if I can get it to work in 2D. Hopefully I can get some time at it later tonight!

[aliasant]

I can click on the non active blobs but it seems they need 2 clicks. First one that will not only click on that blob but also move the current active blob to that spot covering the other one.

Really? That doesn't work for me.

I'd actually like to help get this to work, because it's something I have a need for myself. I've got something which works in 1D, so I'll see if I can get it to work in 2D. Hopefully I can get some time at it later tonight!

Lol. Sorry. Since I couldnt make it work with one click I broke the connections from the Compare module to the wireless so it doesnt work unless you reconnect those 4.

I have started to try to dissect the EQs dots. Its just so hard to try and understand some one elses wireings but I think I might have something. ( elses wireings ............ how do I spell that correctly?? )

[stw]

Just a hint because i'm to busy to do it myself:
Take a look at the MultiStage Env. The point select routine should be exactly what you're searching for. The points are grabbed by a x-y comparison and that works like your description of what you tried to do IIRC.
If you did that already forget my comment

edit: I didn't check if it's eventually the same as in the GraphEQ

[aliasant]

Just a hint because i'm to busy to do it myself:
Take a look at the MultiStage Env. The point select routine should be exactly what you're searching for. The points are grabbed by a x-y comparison and that works like your description of what you tried to do IIRC.
If you did that already forget my comment

edit: I didn't check if it's eventually the same as in the GraphEQ

I think those work similar. Anyways. im having problems using them points. Selcting them by clicking on them works but nothing else. To understand what this XY pad is trying to do you have to download it and test it.
It works a bit different then the normal one. However I made a new version with the new points and that one shows the problems compared to my first attempt. Sorry for my shitty english grammar here. Short on time.......

XYx4pad 2.osm

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[Nu Audio Science]

Sorry for my shitty english grammar here. Short on time.......

Your kidding right ?
You wanna see me try and type in swedish hahahahaha
All you non native english types do an absolutely amazing job in the forum of which us english native types should have a vast and i do mean vast ammount of respect for

NAS

[Andrew J]

Try this out...

It doesn't dull out any blobs because they're all active anyway. Also, the playback of the recording can be a bit jerky.

XYx4pad-AJ.osm

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hen play it back into the input.

[MichaelBenjamin]

about the second version - maybe it could be the mouse drag module, you use a different one than at the first, perhaps it has another behaviour on mouse click release

[aliasant]

Try this out...

It doesn't dull out any blobs because they're all active anyway. Also, the playback of the recording can be a bit jerky.

XYx4pad-AJ.osm

hen play it back into the input.

Nice simple idea. Seems to work. I think im gonna change it so that a Right click automatically enters record mode + stops the playback for that point and Right Up ends it and starts playback. Or something similar. It needs to be idiot proof and simple I also need to find a way to use my float smooth thing as in my first example.

Thanx Andrew. You fixed one or two pieces of the puzzle


To Michael. Yeah. Could be. Im gonna try working on Andrews model instead. It seems to be the best one. Much simpler and smarter then mine. Just have to make it feel and behave like my first one.

[philter5]

Try this out...

It doesn't dull out any blobs because they're all active anyway. Also, the playback of the recording can be a bit jerky.

XYx4pad-AJ.osm

hen play it back into the input.

hey andrew
this is really great! like the "record pad motion" function of my kaoss pad 2!

[aliasant]

OK. I modified Andrews version a bit to make it more intuitive. I think I managed to do it.
What do you guys think?