Finishing the multi stage modulation envelope

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Re: Finishing the multi stage modulation envelope

Postby exonerate on Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:37 pm

MegaHurtz wrote:Is there any reason why you cant yust replace the 1st (stage 0) comparison by a constant1


Yes because all the bit's need setting to 1. There is no constant that will do this for floats.
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Re: Finishing the multi stage modulation envelope

Postby infuzion on Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:52 pm

exonerate wrote:Sorry, what I meant was that your version uses more! Guess I didn't word that very well. :D
Hmm, that is weird, I can see the Manager's optimization backfiring, but it is very very rare that a reduction of 4+ cycles in a dual-core ends up being something to makes things worse in single-core... are you sure you calibrated the CPU Cycle Analysers & turned them off & on.? There is a bug in those that the after you load they are not really running when the switch says it is on. I thought I fixed it in v1.6, but didn't. Also, sometimes you have to swap wires around also to get a better idea of a real reading also.

I'd like to hear others' CPU% test results w/CPUs models please.
edit: Attached is included with v1.7 of the fixed CPU Cycle Analyser with a fixed run on load if on.
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Re: Finishing the multi stage modulation envelope

Postby exonerate on Sat Aug 07, 2010 7:01 pm

infuzion wrote:
exonerate wrote:Sorry, what I meant was that your version uses more! Guess I didn't word that very well. :D
Hmm, that is weird, I can see the Manager's optimization backfiring, but it is very very rare that a reduction of 4+ cycles in a dual-core ends up being something to makes things worse in single-core... are you sure you calibrated the CPU Cycle Analysers & turned them off & on.? There is a bug in those that the after you load they are not really running when the switch says it is on. I thought I fixed it in v1.6, but didn't. Also, sometimes you have to swap wires around also to get a better idea of a real reading also.

I'd like to hear others' CPU% test results w/CPUs models please.
edit: Attached is included with v1.7 of the fixed CPU Cycle Analyser with a fixed run on load if on.


Yeah it's still the same.

By the way my CPU is a dual core it's an old pentium D based on the pentium 4.
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Re: Finishing the multi stage modulation envelope

Postby MegaHurtz on Sun Aug 08, 2010 4:26 pm

the results on my P3 are quite good.. May I ask what changed in the newer version Analiser??
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Re: Finishing the multi stage modulation envelope

Postby infuzion on Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:46 pm

MegaHurtz wrote:the results on my P3 are quite good.. May I ask what changed in the newer version Analiser??
How much faster/slower is my version compared to Exo's please?
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Re: Finishing the multi stage modulation envelope

Postby trogluddite on Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:53 pm

MegaHurtz wrote:the results on my P3

Respect - that's true dedication to beta testing ;)
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Re: Finishing the multi stage modulation envelope

Postby Large on Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:15 pm

Exonerate,

I still hear popping with the envelope.

How do I fix this OSM?
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Re: Finishing the multi stage modulation envelope

Postby infuzion on Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:24 pm

Large wrote:I still hear popping with the envelope.
How do I fix this OSM?

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Re: Finishing the multi stage modulation envelope

Postby Large on Fri Dec 24, 2010 4:14 am

This is more complex than "clicks", infuzion.

There is a second popping sine wave when the HARMONIC value is RAISED.

Download the OSM and see if you can fix it.

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Finishing the multi stage modulation envelope

Postby Large on Sun Dec 26, 2010 6:15 pm

Can someone fix this envelope, as long release times seem to make the pop longer as well?
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Re: Finishing the multi stage modulation envelope

Postby infuzion on Mon Dec 27, 2010 3:37 am

Large wrote:There is a second popping sine wave when the HARMONIC value is RAISED.
OUCH MY EARS!! I wasn't expecting loud test tones! ;)
I honestly can't hear the second popping. I am using cheap sound card & speakers though.
I'll need a spectrogram or whatever in the OSM to visually see the 2nd pop I guess.
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Re: Finishing the multi stage modulation envelope

Postby Large on Mon Dec 27, 2010 4:01 am

Sorry 3:)

But use spectral analysis and you'll see two sines.

Shortening the release shortens the lower pitched sine (which shouldn't be there at all).
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Re: Finishing the multi stage modulation envelope

Postby attic on Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:13 am

I noticed that to and would like to see this very useful project updated. Unfortunately I don't think my SM chops are up to it
so it will have to be someone else. Any takers?
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Re: Finishing the multi stage modulation envelope

Postby Large on Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:38 pm

Well, Exonerate was the lead developer. But he seems to have vanished.

We need to get him back. Clearly this envelope is not ready; see what it does to my two OSMs above.
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Re: Finishing the multi stage modulation envelope

Postby infuzion on Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:36 am

I wouldn't mind helping out real fast, but I need a quick OSM test than I can open & see what is wrong in 5 seconds. To me, I don't see any issues right now, but I may be missing something.
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