Ah, I'm glad you have cornered one of SM' memory issues!trogluddite wrote:Fingers crossed, Malc will tell me that my file just got corrupted somewhere down the line - and these arrays really are a bit huge (30sec stereo audio * 8 audio loops) and plentiful (64 smaller automation loops, 8 * delays, reverb), so not a 'typical' schematic.
However, SM has had memory management problems before - so I though it best to post a warning.
rl wrote:This case could be another good reason for a new feature to export/import schematics to/from a human readable format. So at least we could use a text editor as a last resort. It is not rocket science, e.g. have a look at PD (puredata.org).
rl wrote:Does the schematic also crash when using a selector that switches off code parts?
MegaHurtz wrote:It is after all a beta testing yob youre doing
I would have to disagree. If the price for SM was $49USD or perhaps even $99, these are hobbyist prices, so we would expect a part-time programmer who would fix bugs as he can. For $300USD, I expect a professional program that is well tested & consistently fixed by a team of programmers & has staff for the forums/bug submission (eg Ableton Live, Max/MSP).trogluddite wrote:Well, we all need to face the fact that we are ALL beta testers for EVERY single piece of software we ever use. The forces of consumerism mean that version (n+1) of any software always gets released too soon (got to hit the market before your competitors get in there!). The endless stream of updates and bugfixes is the pay-back for our gnawing 'need' for ever shinier toys. OutSim are not alone in that respect!MegaHurtz wrote:It is after all a beta testing yob you're doing
infuzion wrote:I'm 90% certain your bug was reported SIX years ago:
infuzion wrote:I do not want to beta test anymore;
Yes, perhaps WinXP comparison is poor. Max/MSP comparison is spot-on though; given the price points & capabilities.trogluddite wrote:Not sure the comparison with WinXP is very fair though - 1000's of programmers writing software that is guaranteed a market of hundreds of millions vs. one guy making software that will only sell to geeks with a particularly rare DSP fetish!infuzion wrote:I do not want to beta test anymore;
infuzion wrote:I do have some fetishes; not having my VSTs crash on stage in front of 1000s of people,
Happened to MySpace; they built that crap on top of ColdFusion, which is the worst ever web platform for anything that gets more than 500 hits/day. MySpace is more or less an abondoned island now; everyone is on FaceBook or Twitter or G+. Partly because they simply work.trogluddite wrote:It' seems to have got to the point where only a major 'boycott' by consumers could ever change that, but a whole generation is growing up accepting it as normal.
Reaper is $60 or so every 2-3 years; great value IMHO. & You don't even have to pay to use it.trogluddite wrote:I'd certainly be happy to pay more for SM updates if there were some kind of guarantee of more development (or even just de-bugging) effort being put in - that model seems to have worked very well for Reaper.
I kind of feel I don't have the time to learn C++, but I still have ideas to make VSTs... but I want to publish to the biggest market possible, & not use abandon-ware to built it. That is why I joined SM the first place 6 years ago; I was using Buzz which was abandon-ware at that time, & saw there was 2-3 devs on SM.trogluddite wrote:Maybe you have a secret masochistic streak - after all, you are still here in SM land, when you surely have the skills and talent to do the full on C++ thing.
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