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MP3 module-pls,pls,pls

Postby nix on Sat Oct 30, 2010 7:01 am

Hey OutSim,
Thanks so much for SM, I use it every day.
I was wondering if it would be difficult to release a little SM update with the MP3 player from FlowStone?
Whether you can release it soon, I look forward to the functionality.
Best wishes
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Re: MP3 module-pls,pls,pls

Postby rl on Sat Oct 30, 2010 6:34 pm

Yes MP3 capabilities would be a feature I'd expect from an audio toolkit.

But excuse me from arguing here. I've seen the MP3 module in flowstone. Looking at SM as an audio development environment I think the module is completely heading the wrong direction, because it's a big black box with a special purpose. Too much of a ready-made module.

I'd rather expect a set of basic modules like a binary file IO module, a module that generates an audio stream from a binary input, a MP3 decoder module, etc. connected together to an example module that builds a MP3 player. Little basic building blocks that can be combined to create something bigger. Up to now I thought that would be the spirit of the synthmaker product (just regarding flowstone as a spinoff of SM).
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Re: MP3 module-pls,pls,pls

Postby mwvdlee on Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:08 pm

Obviously, any audio module in FS must also be in SM. But... where is this MP3 module in FS anyway? I can't find it.

Edit: Found it. It's basically a streamplayer, which is pretty much useless for anything except adding some muzak in the background.
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Re: MP3 module-pls,pls,pls

Postby datsound on Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:56 pm

If it is a stream player, then it should be possible to perform some analyses like Fourier on the sound, which could be interesting for some standalone applications.

If there was the possibility to queue MP3 files, it could actually be possible to make an advanced MP3 player or media manager that analyzes the content of MP3s for table and the information, and maybe even the types of instruments it uses, how relaxing or exciting it is and so on, which is something I would love to do!
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Re: MP3 module-pls,pls,pls

Postby mwvdlee on Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:23 pm

datsound wrote:If it is a stream player, then it should be possible to perform some analyses like Fourier on the sound, which could be interesting for some standalone applications.

The only problem is that it won't go any faster than real-time; if you wanted to analyse the content of an entire CD, you'd have to wait an hour, no matter how fast your own algorithm is.
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Re: MP3 module-pls,pls,pls

Postby trogluddite on Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:57 pm

I've not seen the FS mp3 module - but I agree in principle with rl. If I want to play mp3 recordings, I've got a lovely little iPod (or RealPlayer on my PC).
I guess it's not included in SM because even the dev's have realised that it's not a lot of use to plugin builders.

Surely, at the very least, mp3->mem wouldn't be so hard to do, that would go a long way to being useful (mp3 format for samplers etc.)

Given that SM is supposed to be audio DSP specialist software, surely load/save/HDD-streaming of any available codec wouldn't be unreasonable - I know some encoding algorthms are "intellectual property" but I don't recall not being able to access a codec purely for playback at least.
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Re: MP3 module-pls,pls,pls

Postby UltraVox on Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:14 am

Hello all,

Forgive me if my English is incorrect.
This is my first post on this forum and I am happy to find a nice community.

My project is a audio software dedicated to Radio and Web Radio. Difficult not to offer mp3 playback in my application ! I do not know if this feature has appeared in SM since the opening of this Post ?

It is very important to me...
Thank you for your reply.

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Re: MP3 module-pls,pls,pls

Postby trogluddite on Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:26 am

Hi UltraVox, welcome to the forum.

No, sadly SM still has no support for mp3 - only wav files.
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Re: MP3 module-pls,pls,pls

Postby UltraVox on Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:07 am

Hello trogluditte, and thank you for your reply.

Forgive me for insisting, but I'm new to SM and I like to use it. I do not want to change software just because of that...

In your opinion, is there a method to convert mp3/wav, embedded in an application SynthMaker ? For example, when the user wants to play an MP3 file, the application recognizes this, and does the conversion before reading the wave file.

Do you think it possible ?
Thank you for your help.

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Re: MP3 module-pls,pls,pls

Postby infuzion on Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:12 am

SM can execute command-line programs, like LAME. However, if you want to use SM for a radio station, I would avoid SM:
- may have issues with many large WAV files
- makes many page faults; might not be able to stay running will for hours
- is poor with large arrays
- no 64bit version, so using Win7-64 is not recommended IMHO

Try these programs instead of creating your own:
http://www.rivendellaudio.org/
http://www.radiodj.ro/
http://aras.sourceforge.net/
http://www.sourcefabric.org/en/products ... e_release/

BTW, you're not Midge Ure, are you? ;)
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