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"Freeverb" port...

Postby Shifrin on Mon May 09, 2005 2:19 pm

Ok, here is an attempt at converting the 'Jezar' Freeverb code to SM. There are a few things to note :-

* My allpass filter is somewhat different to that in the source (which doesn't seem like a 'proper' allpass filter...). That could account for a more metallic sound - I'll look into this further!

* There may well be some bugs, this was ported pretty quickly!

* It does sound nice with a decent level of damping applied :)

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Postby Tom7777 on Mon May 09, 2005 2:46 pm

Thanks :)
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Postby Shifrin on Mon May 09, 2005 3:06 pm

Actually, I wrapped it into a VST effect with the little knobs on to control it and tested it out in my sequencer with various synths/drums/samples etc and it's surprisingly good! Any bugs or anything let me know and I'll update it (or if I find any myself etc).

It's very simple to add a pre-delay to it too - but that wasn't in Freeverb so I left it out :wink:

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Postby unkargherth on Mon May 09, 2005 3:30 pm

Very Nice work !!!

I think there's suficiently good to work as a Synth effect.

On the predelay issue, is easy to add it externally, so better don't include in the reverb itself
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Postby Shifrin on Mon May 09, 2005 3:55 pm

unkargherth wrote:Very Nice work !!!

I think there's suficiently good to work as a Synth effect.


Yep, it's not bad at all is it. Thanks to NAS for poiting me in the direction of the original Jezar sources, and to Jezar for making them public domain :)

unkargherth wrote:On the predelay issue, is easy to add it externally, so better don't include in the reverb itself


My thoughts exactly :)

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Postby Nu Audio Science on Mon May 09, 2005 5:07 pm

Woohoo
LATKs Freeverb Creakbox - Its gone mad round here and i love it ;)

Really nice work here by the way Shif, Stuff like this really is making me see how infinitely powerful SM is compared to anything else.
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Re: "Freeverb" port...

Postby Kitchen Sink on Wed May 11, 2005 1:11 pm

Shifrin wrote:Ok, here is an attempt at converting the 'Jezar' Freeverb code to SM.


Totally completely awesome!! :o :D Amazing.
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Postby skOre on Wed May 11, 2005 2:52 pm

Love your design style shif... the rectangle connections :)
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Postby Shifrin on Wed May 11, 2005 3:23 pm

skOre wrote:Love your design style shif... the rectangle connections :)


Hehe, it's great that we have these lovely 'bendy' connections in SM but sometimes it's more clear (to me) to add a dummy module for the purpose of making a wire bend at a right angle :wink:

Oh yeah :-

I checked the entire schematic against the Freeverb source and they are now (to my knowledge) algorithmically identical, with one expection: My allpass filter is a standard feedforward+feedback comb design. The one in the source is 'weird' and when I implemented it I got a more harsh metallic sound. So I left my allpass filter as is. Everything else is the same as the source though!

Only thing left to do might be to add some denormal checking in the feedback paths of the filters.

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Postby Nu Audio Science on Thu May 12, 2005 5:10 am

Can you believe it, The actual Freeverb source is hosted at KVR DOH
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Postby malc on Thu May 12, 2005 9:10 am

This is great Shif!

You might be interested to know that you can create links with right-angle bends without the need for a 'corner' module. Go to Options | Advanced and set the link curvature to zero (straight). This allows you to do this:

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It's not perfect though. For a start it's an application setting and so if you send it to someone else it might look different. Also, the interaction for the control points doesn't provide any mechanism for getting at links that are below the link that is on top.

That all said, if you want to get this effect you may still find it useful. I'm sure that this is something we will enhance later down the line.

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Postby Tom7777 on Thu May 12, 2005 9:22 am

I think Freeverb has a really nice sound to it :)
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Postby Shifrin on Thu May 12, 2005 9:28 am

Thats interesting to know malc, cheers!

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Postby Shifrin on Thu May 12, 2005 9:52 am

Nu Audio Science wrote:Can you believe it, The actual Freeverb source is hosted at KVR DOH


Oh just saw you posted that, any chance you could give the link? I tried searching KVR for it myself but came up with nothing but hits for archived forum messages. I'd be interested to compare the source with that which you posted a link to :)

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Postby Nu Audio Science on Thu May 12, 2005 10:09 am

http://www.kvr-vst.com/resources/pluginsrc/freeverb_src.zip

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See you cant always trust searches ;)
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