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Postby MyCo on Thu May 18, 2006 3:07 am

I just played a little bit with the one from AngularMomentum:
http://music-drive.com/101vs303.osm

I changed a lot...don't remember everything but:
- added Accent knob which allows to control how accented (or note with higher Velocity) been played
- Envelope Modulation knob implemented in an other way (as it works on a 303)
- Added 2 Wave forms: Saw303 and Square303, both are wavetables which are calculated with exponentional function for saw and sin(x) for square
- removed Sustain knob... a 303 hasn't that :-)
- put the osm in a modular structure

If you sequence a lot with different velocity it sounds realy good... but I don't get a good 303 pattern... may be I'm not that creative...
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Postby Nu Audio Science on Thu May 18, 2006 5:30 pm

3.3meg mp3 Test tune

I've been useless at helping out on the projects lately so i did a small demo tune of MyCos version

As you will hear it's not quite 303 but it's easily as good as most soft synths that try
That said it is a cracking bass synth anyway and the CPU load is quite low
This is two of the 303s with a microtonic and the CPU was hardly touched on my laptop
The only FX i have added are delays which would be nice if they where built in because it's not very often you do an acid line without delay :)
If you listen to the filter there are hints of 303 everynow and again but it still lacks a little in that department
Also the cutoff goes too low and starts clicking if turned fully counter clockwise

I've got a DJ gig this week and i'm gonna knock some tunes together to play using this plug and see how good it sounds on a big rig
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Postby skOre on Thu May 18, 2006 8:16 pm

luv the tune.

Just decrease the release and add some rez and drive and make it arpeggiate a little more, should do :D
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Postby Nu Audio Science on Thu May 18, 2006 9:03 pm

Well the sound was exactly what i wanted really
Horses for courses i suppose ;)
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Postby skOre on Thu May 18, 2006 10:42 pm

Well, as i said, I do really like it. Yet as you were talking about it not being like the 303...

I especially enjoy when it goes "off track" now and then. The whole setup and the sound reminds me of a remix I really enjoy now and then, which is the 'not so sad remix' of the song Stay Another Day by East17. No pun intended here, while the original was adequate pop at best, that remix really was techno :)
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Postby Nu Audio Science on Fri May 19, 2006 1:00 am

Oh sorry Skore i actually meant the filter is not very 303
The progression of the cutoff just isn't right
But i did love the sounds i was getting out of it and i love using anything but 303s for acid anyway (Different flava)

I think i'll throw it away right now if it sounds like East 17 hahahahahahahaha
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Postby AngularMomentum on Fri May 19, 2006 6:42 am

I think the main problem is really the overdrive that is messing with the sound of the filter in the low region...if no overdrive is used the filter does sound a lot better and smoother when turning the cutoff knob. Also the ADSR module does not work as it should yet. It only reads/plays the new ADSR setting after a note on/off message is received, I would like that to update itself regardless of the note on/off.
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Postby Nu Audio Science on Fri May 19, 2006 4:42 pm

You've done a cracking job though AM
I've stuck 5-6 quick jams together now using it already

You know your right about the drive
I was too busy driven the ass out of anything to try it without :)

I'll be getting a little project site up in a couple of days and this will be getting pride of place ;)
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Postby skOre on Fri May 19, 2006 5:52 pm

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Postby Nu Audio Science on Wed May 24, 2006 1:51 am

No it dont hehehehe
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Postby infuzion on Sun Oct 29, 2006 2:14 am

MyCo wrote:I just played a little bit with the one from AngularMomentum:
http://music-drive.com/101vs303.osm
I've been playing around with this, & found that the Dist module inside the Filter/3pole is causing "keyclicking", where a bad distortion when there is a note-on, & worse, note-off.

Can someone please help to reduce/eliminate it?
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Postby rwillson on Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:19 pm

i know this threqd is so old and dead, but i like they dead, they don't do much to bother you and they are easy to ignore. well i got bored last night and recently i have once again been trying to figure out S|M beyond the premade components (yea like that is ever going to happen). well i was fishing around the forum for anything new and came back to the "SM Bass (Previously SMC 303)" thread and for the first time i auctualy read it from start to finish. i had downloaded the TB-303 a long time ago as well as MyCo's 101v.303 and i got to thinking (not really thinking that takes effort that goes beyond winter boredom and started tinkering with the TB-303. as i have said in a few other posts i have no talent for this so my additions are limited (real limited), i didn't mess with the Osc (although i tried), i did add a definable Detuner, added an Attack to the ASDR, played around with an LFO, the Parametric EQ (mind you resized considerably) and last an Echo Delay. why did i chose the addons, who the hell knows, i was bored and i was fooling around to see what sounded good and in addition there are certain things i like like LFOs and EQs, do all the components work right... BEATS ME???

give it a whirl... adding though i know i basicly stole the entire structure from the original TB-303 i felt i had to pay homage to that fact, hence the name the Ganked TB-303[b/] because in all honesty i totaly ganked the original. i did have some fun with the design and placement of the typography, at the moment i don't have a lot of fonts loaded on my machine and although what comes standard is limited i really do like an [b]italic Bold Arial Black. played with negative space created by the synth controls and the positive and negative space of the type itself. (i really wish i had a tutor or some real tutorials about importing graphics because that is my real calling).

but hey, i had fun, put my two cents in (is that even worth anything anymore???) play around, tell me if i was wasting my time, if i did good (if possible) and if anybody wants to corospond and colaborate i would love to contribute graphic elements (sketches, rough designs, free hand and photoshop renderings, please say so... before i get pissed off at this program and shelve it for another two to three months)...

r... :) :) :)

the link to the outside world, i hope it works, it is supposed to be a public folder on my esnips account...

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Postby rwillson on Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:28 pm

it was fun to make...
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Postby exonerate on Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:17 pm

how would you like to work on some graphic's for this?...
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this is my first synth with synthmaker, it's an additive synth.

this is the basic lay out that i want, i'm going to maybe add a reverb or some thing to fill out the space's, and there's still quite a few optimisation and tweeks to be done.

this is going to be the hardest part for me now with the graphic's, cos i'm totally useless. i've tried making my own knob's but the best i can do is just a flat circle with a shadow on it. i want them to look 3D ish at least, as well as the silder's. if you are able to make 3D looking knob's and slider's that would be brilliant! all it would take is a static image of the knob's and then just put the moving dial over the top to give the elusion that the knob is moving, if you take a look at the standard knob's that's what i mean. in fact you can just load the image into the standard knob, then adjust the dial to fit and hey presto! you have the illusion of a moving knob.

and then also i could do with some help on the background.

if you think you could help with this then just email me or pm me here,

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oh and regarding the 303 i would say it was an improvement, more feature's mean's more sound shaping possiblities, i had a hard time using it before because of the lack of feature's, i know it was ment to be like that, after all it's an emulation of a 303. but i do like plenty of parameter's to play with as you can probally tell my by synth ;)
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Postby rwillson on Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:50 pm

reworking the 303, looked into it and for some reason things aren't hooking up right, yet it still makes sound, at the moment i am going back to my the reference files...

as far as your piece goes, sure i will do something, i just don't know how to import, maybe somebody could give us a crash course...

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