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AHDSR with Gate & Trigger

Postby electrogear on Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:46 pm

Hi,

I'm a complete envelope noob and I'm stuck with some triggering problems on the AHDSR envelope. I noticed that one of the ADSR envelopes in the toolbox has a 'trigger' option which re-triggers the attack phase, which is exactly what I want but the AHDSR doesn't have one. Does anyone know how I could get an AHDSR with both a gate AND a trigger?

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Re: AHDSR with Gate & Trigger

Postby electrogear on Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:26 pm

Anyone any thoughts/help on this? :D
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Re: AHDSR with Gate & Trigger

Postby infuzion on Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:20 am

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You didn't use the Force...
of our finger on the mouse-button to open the modules ;)
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Re: AHDSR with Gate & Trigger

Postby electrogear on Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:29 pm

infuzion wrote:You didn't use the Force...
of our finger on the mouse-button to open the modules ;)


OK, thanks for trying to make me look stupid :D . I had already looked inside the modules, and there are two inputs to the manual ADSR. A trigger, and a gate. Maybe YOU didn't use the force? ;)

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Re: AHDSR with Gate & Trigger

Postby infuzion on Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:06 pm

electrogear wrote:OK, thanks for trying to make me look stupid :D . I had already looked inside the modules, and there are two inputs to the manual ADSR. A trigger, and a gate.
My apologies for the sarcasm; it really is Monty Python's fault.

Oh, you mean the ADSR Code-module vs ADSR (manual)... Now this is really getting confusing. (BTW, normally, when I italicize, it often means I'm referring to the actual primitive, or sometimes module. I sometimes use colored text to indicate something inside Code or ASM.)

Glancing at the ADSR's Code, it seems there is a check with smoothRetrig which is turned on/off by the "Smooth retrig" checkbox in the preferences of the said module. I also can remember reporting to Malc before the the Attack acted differently in the old (beta?) Code-ADSR vs the original ADSR-primitive. So I assume that ADSR Code-module's "Smooth retrig" = ADSR (manual)'s Trig input. Sort of confusing...

So, it seems your request is already in the AHDSR & ADSR modules, but not in the AHD, R, & D modules. However, in the modules the retrig smooth is configured by a green bool that is not dynamic. To make it on-the-fly alterable, you can either change the bool-pref with a GUI switch that has a MIDI CC function (like the Switch toolbox module), or knock out the Retrig module next to the envelope Code, & connect the streamboolin smoothRetrig Code-input to the outside of the module if you want to link to it yourself.

Connect a Poly Readout to help see the actual values of said envelopes, & let me know if that is what you want please.
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Re: AHDSR with Gate & Trigger

Postby infuzion on Thu Jul 24, 2008 6:41 am

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electrogear wrote:...Connect a Poly Readout to help see the actual values of said envelopes, & let me know if that is what you want please.
Did I get to answer your question? Can anyone else verify if my sleuthing is true please?
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