Propellerhead.. what are they up to now?

[tor]

http://www.propellerheads.se/

Seems like they are going to reveal some exiting news in the upcoming days. Maybe Reason 5 is coming now. Would be cool if they implemented VST support. I think that it would be great. I played around with Reason a lot in the earlier days. A really funny and inspirational work environment. But the lack of VST support made me stay with Cubase.

[infuzion]

I'm not sure why lack of VST support is such a barrier; ReWire + Live works fine.
However, I do wish ReWire was 2-way, so Reason could be used as an effects rack.
I never upgraded to Reason4; Thor didn't seem compelling enough when one has SM & so many free VSTs.

[tor]

Truly 2-way rewire would rock and it would give more freedom as with VST support.

[infuzion]

Reason 5 and Record 1.5
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[tor]

I used to be a Reason fan and I really like the look of Record but I never tried it. Looking forward to see if they have come up with some ground breaking news in this new releases. In four days we know

[nix]

so Reason could be used as an effects rack

If you are willing to route audio you can do this in Record. I mean to try playing the vocoder with midi guitar and straight electric soon. Might sound cool and perform better than a hex pickup alone for strumming. I mean to pick up Record to use Reason as effects rack. The Scream is one of the nicer distorsions I've found, and there are lots of routing possibilities sure. If you have Reason the Record demo lets you play the fx with streaming audio 8D

[AngularMomentum]

Tried the demo of record, but the interface, to me, is just one big mess, did not like it at all. Always looking out for Reason 5 though, it surely is time for an upgrade!

[AngularMomentum]

Oh, just checked...it is, it is!!!

[infuzion]

The things I like about Reason the best is that it is flexable, good user community, & ROCK SOLID STABLE. I'm not so sure about SM with being stable, & Max4Live has been a good head-ache maker, so I'm thinking Live + Reason & a small small handful of VSTs will be all I will ever use.

[MichaelBenjamin]

hey infuzion, how is max4life or max in general compared to sm? can you edit/add code inside the box or do you need external c++ to render modules and add stuff? how is it a headache?

[infuzion]

hey infuzion, how is max4life or max in general compared to sm? can you edit/add code inside the box or do you need external c++ to render modules and add stuff? how is it a headache?

Max4Live has full editing of Max files inside Ableton Live, along with deeper access to Live's internals. I'm not sure if you can use their SDK for M4L.
The issue is that M4L & Live together is very crash, lag, & lock-up happy; they pushed it out too early for a commercial product that cost $300. The leader of Denver Ableton User Group said almost everyone quit using M4L on stage. Normally Ableton would have a new Live version out by now, but they're still trying to get 8.1 & M4L to work.

[tor]

No revolutionary news from Propellerheads. They have just made their own implementations from others products already on the market. But as always they do it in a sexy way.

[mwvdlee]

I loved playing around with Rebirth (which at one point was freely downloadable from their site; it may still be) but Reason just went overboard for me. Rebirth was a remake of 303, 808 and, at a later point, 909, with matching interfaces. Reason started inventing their own modules, which is fine, and giving everything restrictive hardware-like interfaces, which isn't fine.

[oddson]

Reason started inventing their own modules, which is fine, and giving everything restrictive hardware-like interfaces, which isn't fine.

I don't find their interfaces to be all that restrictive. You can patch together signals from different 'boxes', some of their synths have extensive modulation capabilities, you can use a sample-based player as a generator but put it through the filter sections on Maelstrom. It's not perfect but it's actually quite flexible and loads of fun.

I got an M-Adapted version with my sound card in 2005 and enjoyed playing with it but dismissed it as a toy. I don't look at it that way anymore.

[infuzion]

I got an M-Adapted version with my sound card in 2005 and enjoyed playing with it but dismissed it as a toy. I don't look at it that way anymore.

You might be able to upgrade to Reason 4 + Record now, & Reason 5 when it arrives for only $150USD:
https://www.propellerheads.se/shop/inde ... &Cat=14000

I do wish the module interacting was more like Buzz; that's what attracted me to SM. But it does work very solidly.