Open Rompler V1.0.0

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Re: Open Rompler V1.0.0

Postby nix on Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:07 am

we could still do it man ;)
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Re: Open Rompler V1.0.0

Postby attic on Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:23 am

I really think there is a community need for an example of a Rompler. I have seen the question come up over and over again and have looked myself for a proper example. The Rompler's I have built always end in some flaw or another that I cant get around and for lack of knowledge I let them sit.

I would put it under the registered user section and let people know it is there. I think it would help generate sales and hopefully with some new revenue coming in maybe malc would kick development up a notch. The opportunity for people to knock out a collection of samples would be a big draw and one that is currently missing.
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Re: Open Rompler V1.0.0

Postby nix on Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:23 am

Alright, I'm cool with that, will we move to reg users?
I have a base 4 the plug also, it doesn't look as spiffy as NAS,
and I want use waves , but yeah I share this one that maps the samples if they are named 0-127.
There are no velocity layers though.
R u still keen NAS?
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Re: Open Rompler V1.0.0

Postby infuzion on Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:45 am

It has been written on the boards several times that if you post an OSM, it will be stolen, money made off of it by someone else, with out even credit in either cash or money.

So why not use 3rd party app like Diglo to ensure more security & more privacy?
If we had lockable modules, perhaps things would be different...

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1649&hilit=lockable+modules
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=9932&hilit=lockable+modules
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Re: Open Rompler V1.0.0

Postby attic on Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:07 am

nix wrote:I want use waves

I think waves would be better also. Nix don't post up anything you don't want to loose, because I know infuzion is right.
I was thinking it would be more interesting to put something together that we allowed people to do what they wanted with. If they wanted to put some serious work into a sample pack but didn't have the skills to program it we wouldn't stop them from selling it if they thought it was good enough. . (While encouraging free releases). I think that approach would help SM sales and inject some life into the forums and community (Not that you guys aren't lively enough). I like the idea of people being able to run around with a portable recorder and make some unusual sample collections even if there a noob to programing in SM.
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Re: Open Rompler V1.0.0

Postby infuzion on Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:59 am

attic wrote:I think that approach would help SM sales and inject some life into the forums and community (Not that you guys aren't lively enough).
I think the SM world is waiting for you to post your OSMs ;)
Perhaps I'm feeling burned out by all the WiKi work I've done, but I like building on stuff that I know I will use. But if I have to do all the hours of work to get something (like Preset Manager Reset, MIDI "Fine" control) I am likely to keep it myself. A rough sample playback OSM is easy to slap together; lots of parts everywhere. To make it special will eat up alot of my money-making dev time...
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Re: Open Rompler V1.0.0

Postby attic on Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:36 am

I think the SM world is waiting for you to post your OSMs ;)

I have one or two kicking around here somewhere but each with its own issue's. I do think you might be better off starting from someone else's code base as I'm sloppy and not prone to documenting enough, but I will look for them if you would like.
if I have to do all the hours of work to get something (like Preset Manager Reset, MIDI "Fine" control) I am likely to keep it myself.

I can help. I'm good with graphics and know enough to take care of some things like the Preset Manager, Midi "Fine control.
I'm still trying to figure out some stuff but I could fill some gaps and help keep the hours down.
A rough sample playback OSM is easy to slap together; lots of parts everywhere. To make it special will eat up alot of my money-making dev time...

I don't know that it needs to be super special at first, the picture at the beginning of the post looks fairly simple. We could get it going and keep the build modular so we could re-purpose the parts so it wasn't a total loss of time and add the parts to the Developer's Toolkit or something.
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Re: Open Rompler V1.0.0

Postby nix on Sun Aug 07, 2011 9:05 am

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=10634
Here is my start.
The next thing is velocity layers.
Ideally they should be variable between 1 and 127 different layers I guess.
Let me know if it's not working 4 u
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Re: Open Rompler V1.0.0

Postby AngularMomentum on Sat Sep 10, 2011 12:09 pm

philter5 wrote:
infuzion wrote:
Nu Audio Science wrote:You can use this OSM to learn but unless you are going to post enhancements or fixes back into the project please do not release it as your own (I will go out of my way to publicize any misuse, this is a project for the entire music community)
I can guarantee this will happen. Perhaps in months or years, likely weeks. I suggest a take-down, & lend the OSM purely on a by-request basis. There are a few who keep doing it. There is a new-ish thread on KVR asking for 303 emulations, & at least 2 if not 3 are more or less direct copies of SM's tb303, I think at least 1 for sale, with out credits.

I follow the internet's basic rule: "If you do not want people to steal it, do not put it on the internet!"
That is why I rarely post OSMs anymore.


i can only agree with infuzion here... there are also versions of the ARP Odyssey Project that AM started here,
just stolen and used under another name.... first time i saw this it was COMMERCIAL, now it´s for free.
http://www.vst4free.com/free_vst.php?pl ... sey&id=801
but that´s why i rarely post OSM files, too. People WILLL steal it, definitely, today or tomorrow or whenever...


The only gripe I have it is not shared here on the forum...I do feel some regrets and guilt not being able to go ahead and participate at all... :blush:
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Re: Open Rompler V1.0.0

Postby infuzion on Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:16 pm

AngularMomentum wrote:The only gripe I have it is not shared here on the forum...I do feel some regrets and guilt not being able to go ahead and participate at all... :blush:
And that is why I suggested "closed sharing", where it is limited by access to only afew people. You can get extra contact info if you want... But when that VST suddenly shows up where it should not (eg under someone else's name for money/extra fame), then you know who to blame, & don't give them access again.

People underestimate the time it takes to program & test & are not appreciative. Right now, I've forked the MultiStage Envelope, putting an extra 25+ hours in it. And I am still not finished. If I post it publicly, someone will scoop it up faster than a heartbeat. But I'll lose my extra edge to help sell VSTs, so that time will be wasted. I like helping, but I also have to make a (better) living...
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Re: Open Rompler V1.0.0

Postby attic on Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:31 pm

Nix has made a nice small start to one. We could all donate an hour to it and it would be much better.
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Re: Open Rompler V1.0.0

Postby durkk on Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:30 pm

I signed up for this specially for this thread!

I think it's a marvelous idea! So much better than working with things like Kontakt and other Proprietary solutions.

Amazing! Keen to help out in any way. I am a sound designer not a programmer (although i know my fair share of KSP scripting). My contributions are limtied this way but I hope to contribute none the less!
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Re: Open Rompler V1.0.0

Postby durkk on Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:41 pm

Ok my first 2 cents:

If there would be a system that ensure development and commercial success I think the best option would be a system much like NI uses for Kontakt. They have a royalty system.

The threshold with N is extremely high. You could have no threshold (ie sell 0 copies, pay 0). This way there still is a " open source" vibe to it. In the sense you dont need a big budget to even be able to sell products.

I am more than willing to contribute a % per sale to the dev team behind this. As long as the product is good.
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Re: Open Rompler V1.0.0

Postby Yuroun on Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:49 am

If you need a beta tester from a sound designer point of view, let me know.
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Re: Open Rompler V1.0.0

Postby durkk on Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:31 pm

Kinda old thread - might be best to contact te OP?
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